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November 05, 2012

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John

I am so very glad for your blog. It is an area that I must honestly say I do not know a lot about. I am now going to look at the perspective of New Jersey, the NJ NEA and the CEC viewpoints. Although I can readily say that there seems to a void in the connection between the qualitative aspects of the job and quantitative parts of teaching students with exceptional learning challenges. This includes those students who are gifted.
I do agree with you that the current plan for SC as you describe does not leave room for developing a positive teaching morale and I think it prohibits the current evidenced based strategy of "co-teaching" in the general education classroom.
Thank you for the heads up. jannette

Hi John,
Sounds like you have a lot of knowledge on the teacher evaluation system. I can't help but feel sometimes politics has a way of trying to safe face while making life more difficult for everyone else around them. It is great that policies are in place to ensure competent and effective teachers are in our schools, but at some point they should just let the teachers teach. Thank you for your post.

To be sure, what I said was that I do not know any other system of evaluation and that since I am a new teacher, I will not know any differently. There is a difference between being relatively ignorant and thus optimistically, if cautiously, excited about something someone else sees as 'new' and being passively 'pleased.' I am not passively pleased. I hope that clarifies my earlier point.

@John--thanks for clearing that up.

John-I think you have every reason to state your opinion on this evaluation system. The role and responsibilities of a special education teacher are definitely over looked and sometimes under appreciated. I live in Minnesota and I am currently student teaching. We are currently required to participate in the Teacher Performance Assessment (TPA) which doesn't accurately represent how special education teachers operate, or how the university is preparing teacher candidates for their future careers. States have these ambitions and goals with their evaluation systems, but does it really evaluate the important aspects of special education? I don't think so and I hope that they figure that our real soon.

@Tonya I couldn't agree anymore with your comment. You summed up the problems with a value-added model perfectly. I would add that the math formulas can be fairly accurate when dealing with very large populations (all the students in SC), but they become very innacurate predictors of growth when applied to the classroom or school level because of all the individual factors you mentioned.

@Jerry I'm glad you are pleased with the system in Ohio. In South Carolina, student growth is determined by students test scores on state-wide exams in comparison to what a statistical formula says they should achieve. So while I may have every piece of data available on my students and can show growth in a number of ways other than state-wide test scores, if my students don't perform on those state-wide assessments, none of the other growth matters.

John,
What a nice blog entry. I would like to echo many sentiments already spoken here. A primary presumption of a value-added model is that a teacher’s effectiveness can be identified through students’ standardized test scores. This evaluation system makes teachers responsible for student success when, in reality, quite the opposite is true. Teachers do not work in isolation because schools are learning communities where all parts contribute to student development. An evaluation system that even partially bases an individual teacher’s evaluation on his or her students’ scores ignores the reality that student success is often predicated on the work of many in a school, including reading teachers, resource teachers, reading and English Language Learner specialists, guidance counselors, social workers, psychologists, and other personnel. Most importantly, out-of-school factors are actually more responsible for student success. Non-classroom- teacher factors, including parents’ income level and level of education, account for roughly 85-90% of the statistical variation in students’ tests scores.
There must be an answer to this, I just don't know what it is.

I just spent the last half hour or so watching youtube videos on the new teacher evaluation system in Ohio. I'm not so conflicted as some may be. On the one hand, I am a new teacher so evaluation is expected, but I'm not used to any particular system. Whatever system is in place is what I will be accustomed to.

Second, it factors in student growth at a rate of 50% of the evaluation. While I am a bit bothered that out of the 20+ minutes of videos there was mention of special education for about 30 seconds, I also think that to an extent it is easier for special educators to demonstrate than it is for others. I know in my situation, I am a slave to data collection. I collect data on everything and use many tools and charts and forms to keep track of it.

I am actually kind of excited about the new evaluation process (in Ohio) precisely because those teachers who do their jobs well and keep good records shouldn't have any problems receiving a very good rating from their principal and those who will evaluation student progress.

@Naomi thanks for the comment. I could have written an entire blog just about objections to the value added formulas. I think they can be somewhat accurate (emphasis on somewhat) when dealing with very large populations. When bringing those formulas to smaller groups, like schools or classrooms, there are simply too many dependent variables affecting the test scores to make accurate predictions. Part of the problem with the proposed system is that the formulas are very technical and require and advanced math degree to begin to understand them. When teachers try to argue against the formulas they can sometimes be like a dog barking up the wrong tree simply because they don't understand the formula.

This whole paragraph and I haven't even mentioned what you said about how we need a more holistic approach to measuring growth. You are right on.

Sorry, my line regarding the measuring of teaching and learning should have read that "it must be done using QUALITATIVE measures..." not quantitative. Thank you!

Thank you, John, for this critique. It is interesting to note that the same CEC news brief that features your blog, also features a story about Michigan receiving a $24 million federal grant from the U.S. Department of Education, who "believes in looking at a more holistic approach to education." The quote continues, "Part of the program’s beliefs is that helping a student achieve greatness can't be done by academics alone, that some students may have other issues that affect their ability to learn." Amen! This admission belies the basic flaw with using "value-added" evaluation systems, mainly; that student growth is not an even, sterile process that can be distilled and analyzed as the result of standardized test scores. Neither can teaching be measured quantitatively. Teaching and learning are necessarily holistic processes and any efforts to measure them must use quantitative measures (ie. portfolio analysis, observations, etc.) As you state in your blog, the research is just not there to support value-added evaluations. Thanks for underscoring the flaws in this system and please take note that even the Federal Dept. of Ed., which has championed the value added method, now maintains that a more holistic approach to education is critical. Ironic but true!

John,
Great information in this blog -- it is something that every teacher should be aware of and as a student teacher myself, I am beginning to form my own opinions on this subject. It is unfortunate to hear that some general education teachers don't want to include students with disabilities in their classes just because they would not "look good" as teachers if these students didn't perform well in their class. I really resonated with the point you made in #2. I truly believe that many of the duties and responsibilities of special education teachers are overlooked by other teachers... our job involves WAY more than the instruction of students. This needs to be considered when making teacher evaluation systems.

@Sabrina I agree it is hard to judge a teacher based on student growth. Student growth can mean lots of different things: behavior, social skills, maturity, job skills, etc. None of these things will show up on test scores. I am not completely against student growth being factored into a teacher's score. It just needs to be equitable for all teachers.

@Brittany thanks for the comment. You bring up a good point. This isn't just a South Carolina issue. These types of systems are coming to all states sooner or later. You also hit on a topic that I didn't spend much time elaborating on, but the rating systems can encourage and discourage you from teaching at certain schools.

@Kristin thanks for the comment. I highly recommend you to research these systems and be informed before you start applying for jobs. The school you teach at will have a major impact on your score as a teacher.

@Kari thanks for the comment. I encourage you to get informed and make your own opinions about these type of systems. No matter where you teach, this type of system is either already in the works or coming soon.

What a loaded question, "How is your state’s system incorporating student growth into its evaluation? What pitfalls or benefits do you see to your system?" I am excited to answer, and I apologize if it feels like a rant...I am sure the people who decided Minnesota needed to do their Teacher Evaluations this way may have had a reason. Keep in mind I am a student teacher and I do not know how this looks beyond college, I know this is a requirement from the State of Minnesota. I just don't understand. So, here it goes (as much as I know anyway, since it is so new), in Minnesota we have adopted a system called Teacher Performance Analysis (TPA) which is tracked by using a program online called TaskStream, an online portfolio system. This online portal is a place to put lesson plans, connect them to standards, explanations of what you did and on and on. My trouble is coming from realizing that this program was definitely not made with Special Education in mind because it does not fit the assignments I have to put on it. I do not know how Minnesota is going to evaluate teachers who are already teaching. This is how they are evaluating us newbies.
On the subject of "teachers getting paid according to student growth" this statement is familiar in regards to already-in-the-field educators. I can't help but think, "What about me?" Some of my students will not move forward after they hit a certain threshold in the academic world, what then? Does that mean I am not an 'effective' teacher, which means I will get paid less than the general education math teacher whose class made extensive progress? That seems unfair...maybe I don't understand it at all. I just know that there must be a way teachers can be deemed 'effective' or
'non-effective' on the basis of something other than academic growth.

Thank you for researching this and bringing attention to it. I am a pre-service teacher and I didn't realize how much your first year of teaching could affect your rating. I think that the states need to think twice about rating teachers and schools because we could have a surplus of teachers wanting to teach at the better rated school to help their score and a shortage of teachers at schools that could negatively affect their rating. I feel that it should not matter which school district or building you are teaching in but it should matter what you are teaching and how effective your teaching is to the students. If they are not learning the material then as the teacher I feel it is my job to figure out why and how I can present this information and skills to them so they have a chance to learn these skills.
As a pre-service teacher in Minnesota they are trying to use a system to rate us during our student teaching. I personally feel that this system is a lot of extra paper work and that it is taking my time away from learning things that I could not have in lectures. I am sure there are good intentions behind it and that is has good points. Hopefully these rating systems are thought out and they find a way to incorporate students with disabilities and have it not be a negative process. Thank you again for taking this overwhelming topic and bringing out the important points/ issues that need to be thought of and considered.

John-
Thats a lot to think about- and to be honest I am not teaching yet so I have not really thought about teacher evaluation system. But Thank you for asking your state people some good hard question. Keep up the great post and most of all keep up the great work you are doing with your students!!

John,

Thank you for all the information about teacher evaluations. I have heard about them recently in school and they seem to be a bit overwhelming. I agree that I think it is difficult to judge a teachers ability based on these certain criteria. I also find it saddening that soon general education teachers will have this negative attitude toward students will disabilities. Thank you for all the useful information and I will be sure to look further into the links you provided.

@Jill Thanks for the support! I really appreciate everyone reading.

@Jamie I know--a lot of information, right? I tried making it shorter. This is actually shorter than it was before editing, but thanks for taking the time to read it. I wanted to make a well-thought out argument about this system. Right now, a lot of people are just writing about it and saying, "This is stupid, and I don't like it!" essentially. While I may agree, that kind of thinking doesn't get anyone at the state department to change their mind.

As a pre-service teacher, I would recommend that you take some time to learn about the system before you start applying for jobs. If you teach in South Carolina, the school you end up teaching at will make a huge impact on your score. If you don't teach in SC, your state is probably going through a similar process. Some states are doing a really good job. Others have some problems with them.
Thanks for the comment!

Once again, you make your fellow SC CEC members proud, John. I appreciate your thoughtful reflection...and I agree!
Keep up the good fight, always focussing on the students we serve. Your circle of influence is growing as you lead us and keep us informed.
Jill

John,
Wow, what a lot of information to take in! Thank you for taking the time to research this issue and for providing your thoughts on it. As a pre-service teacher, I have not yet had to worry about teacher evaluation systems. Thus, I feel I cannot offer my won opinion on the matter. Thank you so much for posting the links. I plan to save the links for future reference. Thank you again for this valuable information.

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